tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post663791331709414605..comments2023-11-02T08:17:49.134+00:00Comments on Law and Sexuality: Making a Fist of It: The Law and ObscenityChris Ashfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12071159399124287824noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-12980316178399000952012-01-11T19:48:36.426+00:002012-01-11T19:48:36.426+00:00last but not least, my post on the 'censorship...last but not least, my post on the 'censorship' of me by FIPA:<br /><br />http://quietgirlriot.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/freedom-in-a-puritan-age-or-not/<br /><br />I was amused to see they follow 'index on censorship' on twitter. Let's hope they learn something!Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-44808785538121789162012-01-10T14:56:53.673+00:002012-01-10T14:56:53.673+00:00sorry for holding forth!
here is my piece at Open...sorry for holding forth!<br /><br />here is my piece at Open Rights Org zine on the trial:<br /><br />http://zine.openrightsgroup.org/features/2011/puritanism-in-a-permissive-ageEllyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-13815034662799916202012-01-10T14:08:39.578+00:002012-01-10T14:08:39.578+00:00the thing that gets me is how people don't mak...the thing that gets me is how people don't make the link between censorship and cases like this.<br /><br />Do I have to spell it out? Even though Foucault already has?!<br /><br />The FIPA debacle made me very depressed about the 'sex positive' community.Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-81435108504592511422012-01-09T15:43:11.946+00:002012-01-09T15:43:11.946+00:00p.s. I left the same roughly comment at Fipa , the...p.s. I left the same roughly comment at Fipa , the first comment, and they won't publish it. And they won't follow me on twitter because I am a 'troll'.<br /><br />This is the 'discourse' and 'power' Foucault would be interested in!<br /><br />I know I am annoying sometimes. So I appreciate you publishing my comments even when they are critical. Not everyone does!Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-18139976281178913292012-01-09T12:41:18.705+00:002012-01-09T12:41:18.705+00:00yes but he's one of the lawyers from the firm ...yes but he's one of the lawyers from the firm involved in the case. In terms of the surrounding 'discourse' I think it's been feminist-female dominated. I mean, david allen green has written on it but he's very much pandering to feminism with his 'liberal' moralistic approach. and is also a lawyer. So all the men commenting are directly involved in the 'law'. all the women, directly involved in 'feminism'.<br /><br />I dunno, it feels biased to me.Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-13850405682684736102012-01-09T12:23:48.459+00:002012-01-09T12:23:48.459+00:00Myles Jackman is a man and has written about it an...Myles Jackman is a man and has written about it and has also appeared on the high-profile BBC radio programme, PM so there's been a guy front and centre of the story. I don't share your concerns therefore about the commentary on this (thus far).<br /><br />On the Foucault point, yes I agree with you in terms of the definition. As a postmodernist, it would be surprising to see him conclude it 'wrong' and would have an interesting take more generally. I think you're absolutely right in relation to the 'positive' discourses point and it will be interesting to see how this case plays out.Chris Ashfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12071159399124287824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-7668654723022309312012-01-09T10:14:33.522+00:002012-01-09T10:14:33.522+00:00also not a criticism of you but an observation:
t...also not a criticism of you but an observation:<br /><br />the two 'live tweeters' in court were feminist women. One went on to write a piece in the Guardian/observer on the trial.<br /><br />The two academic 'experts' were feminist women.<br /><br />Jane Fae who wrote pieces on it also a feminist woman.<br /><br />Brooke Magnanti whatever label she uses is to my mind a feminist woman.<br /><br />You're the only man I have seen write about this!<br /><br />what's that all about?Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3614841571339583501.post-41025875351693825512012-01-09T10:06:39.475+00:002012-01-09T10:06:39.475+00:00i left a comment at FIPA but it's not been pub...i left a comment at FIPA but it's not been published yet.<br /><br />I had a small criticism of your use of Foucault. a) in the court they only quoted the first part of his statement so it didn't really make sense - about the three categories: different, abnormal, sick. <br /><br />His point that those three are 'conflated' though, I don't think he says that is 'wrong', merely that it happens. Foucault emphasised how powerful 'discourse' is so even if a concept is undesirable it is still 'real'. People who are different ARE treated as 'sick' in society whether we like it or not.<br /><br />also I wasn't 'delighted' to hear Foucault (badly) referenced in court. I think he'd have been horrified that that case took place at all. And, he said that even the 'positive' discourses around sex contribute to its repression/oppression. Talking about it is part of the problem!Ellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103667133412183125noreply@blogger.com